Archbishop of Washington Cardinal Robert McElroy mixed politics with religion during Sunday Mass this past weekend, speaking out against the immigration policies of President Donald Trump’s administration.

“We are witnessing a comprehensive governmental assault designed to produce fear and terror,” McElroy said during his homily at the Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle. “It embraces as collateral damage, horrific, emotional suffering.”

The sermon came ahead of the 111th World Day of Migrants.

Cardinal McElroy joined WTOP’s Nick Iannelli to talk more about his homily and beliefs. Hear the full conversation and listen to the transcript below.

The following transcript has been lightly edited for clarity.