On the latest edition of COLORS — A Dialogue on Race in America, with Chris Core and J.J. Green: John Norquist, the former mayor of Milwaukee says recent statistical indices that claim Milwaukee is the most racist city in America are based on a flawed methodology.

Norquist said the “Dissimilarity Index,” the foundation for most of the indices, “is one of the most racist constructions to measure racism that’s come up outside of the Ku Klux Klan.”

Previous guests on COLORS include Michael Grinston, the Sergeant Major of the Army, Dorothy Gilliam, the first African American female reporter at the Washington Post, Ernie Green, a member of the Little Rock Nine, James Brown of CBS Sports, Sports Columnist Christine Brennan, former Maryland Attorney General Doug Gansler and NFL network reporter Steve Wyche.

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